Tuesday, 12 April 2011
Post debate post
Strange stuff going on with the press conference with Jack Layton. Some random man in front of the press gallary shouted out "Why do you go to the debates, each time you lose?" Layton gave a pretty glib answer, which I won't go into detail about. The interesting thing was, the man who shouted out the question -- an Indian man in a dapper suit posting on his blackberry -- wasn't recording anything with a camera or sound recorder. Maybe he had a cameraman somewhere in the audience, but I think that man is a conservative staffer stirring the pot.
Last question
The last question is... too complicated for me. It's something about health care, but I honestly can't get the bearing of it.
Over here, the fact that Harper is not wearing his wedding ring is upstaging what the debate is about. Strange. We saw him walk up to the debate with the wife. Kinda reminds me about all those rumours that were going around about that marriage being over in December.
But apparently, there's nothing to it. The issue came up last election. He has a sensitivity to metals so he doesn't wear one. I buy that.
I'm not getting much out of this debate question to be honest. Iggy is pushing his family health plan.
Finally the moderator asks them how they're going to fund their health care plan. Harper's answer I didn't catch. Layton attacked Harper's plan. Iggy said raise corporate tax rates. Duceppe mentioned oil companies.
And the debate closed without any mention of the Afghan detainees, or the alleged human rights abuse in the g20. Can't really say who won. It was mostly the three opposition leaders trying to drag Harper down. But Harper wasn't in a debate, he was in a PR event, providing soundbites about the economy when he was under duress. It was smooth, sure, but I think it looked like he was avoiding the question. He was on the defense for the whole evening, and it looked like he couldn't answer any of the questions honestly
It doesn't really change my opinion about any of the leaders, but I think Ignatieff won my respect a little this evening. Question is, how much did that change Canadian's opinions?
Over here, the fact that Harper is not wearing his wedding ring is upstaging what the debate is about. Strange. We saw him walk up to the debate with the wife. Kinda reminds me about all those rumours that were going around about that marriage being over in December.
But apparently, there's nothing to it. The issue came up last election. He has a sensitivity to metals so he doesn't wear one. I buy that.
I'm not getting much out of this debate question to be honest. Iggy is pushing his family health plan.
Finally the moderator asks them how they're going to fund their health care plan. Harper's answer I didn't catch. Layton attacked Harper's plan. Iggy said raise corporate tax rates. Duceppe mentioned oil companies.
And the debate closed without any mention of the Afghan detainees, or the alleged human rights abuse in the g20. Can't really say who won. It was mostly the three opposition leaders trying to drag Harper down. But Harper wasn't in a debate, he was in a PR event, providing soundbites about the economy when he was under duress. It was smooth, sure, but I think it looked like he was avoiding the question. He was on the defense for the whole evening, and it looked like he couldn't answer any of the questions honestly
It doesn't really change my opinion about any of the leaders, but I think Ignatieff won my respect a little this evening. Question is, how much did that change Canadian's opinions?
Fifth Question -"#fail"?
Skipped the fourth question. So sue me.
Ignatieff and Duceppe have been asked a question about the gun registry. This is not going to be a debate. This is going to be both of them slagging on Harper for six minutes.
Debate season is refreshing. All of the political dirty laundry gets aired. So far, we've covered the senate, the climate change bill, losing the UN security seat to Portugal the G20, and now the gun registry. Let's not talk about the economy, which has been brought up too many times. If we can mention the Afghan detainee scandal and the mega jails. before 9:00, I think we've covered all our bases.
In reaction to the gun registry, Harper is falling back to his tough on crime platform. Well, it's better than hearing "We're pulling out of the recession before anyone else, our economy is the strongest in the world" and such hyperbole.
Layton just said that one of Harper's policies was a "hashtag-fail". Awesome!
Ignatieff and Duceppe have been asked a question about the gun registry. This is not going to be a debate. This is going to be both of them slagging on Harper for six minutes.
Debate season is refreshing. All of the political dirty laundry gets aired. So far, we've covered the senate, the climate change bill, losing the UN security seat to Portugal the G20, and now the gun registry. Let's not talk about the economy, which has been brought up too many times. If we can mention the Afghan detainee scandal and the mega jails. before 9:00, I think we've covered all our bases.
In reaction to the gun registry, Harper is falling back to his tough on crime platform. Well, it's better than hearing "We're pulling out of the recession before anyone else, our economy is the strongest in the world" and such hyperbole.
Layton just said that one of Harper's policies was a "hashtag-fail". Awesome!
Third Question
"Mr Harper, you haven't earned the trust of the Canadian people, because you don't trust the Canadian people." That was Ignatieff referring to the UWO student kicked out of Harper's meeting. "This is not strong leadership."
Harper will not look at the other candidates, even when he is answering their questions. He's talking to the camera.
"You keep talking about parliament like it's some sort of debating society that doesn't matter. Well it isn't - it's the Parliament of the Canadian people!" and "It's time you showed respect for the basic institutions of the country."
Whenever Harper gets into trouble, he talks about the economy. He's totally in denial. My colleges watching the debate have suggested a drinking game where every time Harper talks about the economy, you take a drink. If they were drinking, I think everyone will get absolutely pissed by the end of the first half of the debate.
Layton has just dropped the first hint that he might be open to a coalition. Kinda sounds sleazy when he says it like that.
Now the debate has turned into how parties form government. This part is boring. Hey! he mentioned the Economy again! We can drink!
Harper will not look at the other candidates, even when he is answering their questions. He's talking to the camera.
"You keep talking about parliament like it's some sort of debating society that doesn't matter. Well it isn't - it's the Parliament of the Canadian people!" and "It's time you showed respect for the basic institutions of the country."
Whenever Harper gets into trouble, he talks about the economy. He's totally in denial. My colleges watching the debate have suggested a drinking game where every time Harper talks about the economy, you take a drink. If they were drinking, I think everyone will get absolutely pissed by the end of the first half of the debate.
Layton has just dropped the first hint that he might be open to a coalition. Kinda sounds sleazy when he says it like that.
Now the debate has turned into how parties form government. This part is boring. Hey! he mentioned the Economy again! We can drink!
Second question
Was on how Canada can its positive international influence abroad. Ignatieff and Layton started the dance, by making it about democracy. "How can Harper promote democracy abroad if he doesn't believe in it at home?"
Layton followed up by mentioning the Senate killing bill S-11 in November. I knew it wasn't long coming. It seemed like a tag-team against Harper for a minute. Until they started talking about Afghanistan. Then Layton began laying in to Iggy. "I think it's responsible, for our armed forces to help the Afghan people."
Then it became a free-for all. Again.
Harper still a cool customer. He actually looks at the camera when giving a response, while the others stare at the other candidates. I think that could pay off really well with voters. The point of the leaders debate isn't to win the argument with the other leaders, but to win over possible voters.
Reaction from the NCB when Harper speaks.
"I hate his creepy voice!"
"I hate his creepy FACE!"
Somehow Ignatieff managed to tweet during the middle of the debate. How did that work?
Layton followed up by mentioning the Senate killing bill S-11 in November. I knew it wasn't long coming. It seemed like a tag-team against Harper for a minute. Until they started talking about Afghanistan. Then Layton began laying in to Iggy. "I think it's responsible, for our armed forces to help the Afghan people."
Then it became a free-for all. Again.
Harper still a cool customer. He actually looks at the camera when giving a response, while the others stare at the other candidates. I think that could pay off really well with voters. The point of the leaders debate isn't to win the argument with the other leaders, but to win over possible voters.
Reaction from the NCB when Harper speaks.
"I hate his creepy voice!"
"I hate his creepy FACE!"
Somehow Ignatieff managed to tweet during the middle of the debate. How did that work?
First Question
"I'd like to congratulate Harper for answering a question from a citizen for the first time this campaign." Said Gilles Duceppe
The first two debaters were Gilles Duceppe and Stephen Harper. The question was how Harper could justify cutting taxes while the country was in a recession. Basically Harper kept harping on how well the Canadian economy was. Gilles is quite the pit bull.
Ignatieff entered the debate guns-a-blazing. A little stiff maybe. "This was not stimulus. This was just wasting money, building Gazebo and fake lakes."
The leaders of the opposition have been hammering on at Harper about the contempt ruling, and how he's not been altogether honest about the amount it actually cost.
I think Stephen Harper is a very cool customer. About the contempt ruling. "I don't agree with it. You were determined to have an election regardless of whether Canadians wanted it."
I'm disappointed that no-one has taken to him to task about the Senate in November. But I'm sure that will come up later.
The first two debaters were Gilles Duceppe and Stephen Harper. The question was how Harper could justify cutting taxes while the country was in a recession. Basically Harper kept harping on how well the Canadian economy was. Gilles is quite the pit bull.
Ignatieff entered the debate guns-a-blazing. A little stiff maybe. "This was not stimulus. This was just wasting money, building Gazebo and fake lakes."
The leaders of the opposition have been hammering on at Harper about the contempt ruling, and how he's not been altogether honest about the amount it actually cost.
I think Stephen Harper is a very cool customer. About the contempt ruling. "I don't agree with it. You were determined to have an election regardless of whether Canadians wanted it."
I'm disappointed that no-one has taken to him to task about the Senate in November. But I'm sure that will come up later.
Pre-debate post,
I'm at the TV studio in my journalism program, where a bunch of our buddies are waiting for the the debate to begin. They've
There's about fifteen minutes until the debate starts. So far, the candidates have walked out in front of the cameras and posed together. It looks really awkward when they try to smile. I suspect that they're not in their element, posing and pretending to be best buds. They're in their best element when they're going for each others throats.
I'm excited to see how Ignatieff does this evening. I've never been impressed before when I saw him speak, but he and his party have been fighting a good election.
Thoughts on candidates:
--Layton is sporting a cane, and it's kind of endearing. One of my buddies, Alex Ballingall, thinks he looks like the Monopoly Man, just needs the cigar and top hat.
--Gilles Duceppe's face is a mass of primary colours: blue eyes; red Face; yellow teeth.
--Ignatieff makes me laugh when he tries to smile. He looks like he's grimacing.
--Then again, Harper wins for fakest smile. He looks remarkably like the Galactic Emperor.
There's about fifteen minutes until the debate starts. So far, the candidates have walked out in front of the cameras and posed together. It looks really awkward when they try to smile. I suspect that they're not in their element, posing and pretending to be best buds. They're in their best element when they're going for each others throats.
I'm excited to see how Ignatieff does this evening. I've never been impressed before when I saw him speak, but he and his party have been fighting a good election.
Thoughts on candidates:
--Layton is sporting a cane, and it's kind of endearing. One of my buddies, Alex Ballingall, thinks he looks like the Monopoly Man, just needs the cigar and top hat.
--Gilles Duceppe's face is a mass of primary colours: blue eyes; red Face; yellow teeth.
--Ignatieff makes me laugh when he tries to smile. He looks like he's grimacing.
--Then again, Harper wins for fakest smile. He looks remarkably like the Galactic Emperor.
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| We've seen his softer side before. We weren't taken in. |
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